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November 22nd, 2009

Death Tunnel (2005) IMDB rating: 2.70 Plot: Movie is based on the True Stories and Hauntings of Waverly Hills Sanatorium in Louisville, Kentucky. This horrific Five story structure is listed as one of the Top Ten Scariest Places on Earth, due to the 63,000+ deaths within this monument of Terror. They were then carried through the massive Five hundred foot underground Tunnel to their final resting place. The story involves Five girls on a college initiation, dared to spend the night separately on the Five floors of this sanatorium, with the Five ghosts that exist within it’s abandoned corridors. Will they make it through the night? For the only way out is through…the Death Tunnel.

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Would God allow this?
Some of You may have heard about near-death experience (NDE). It usually occurs when the person undergous clinic death- the equipment shows stop of pulse, no brain activity and no breathing, yet the person "wakes up". People claim to have seen light at end of tunnel and their dead ancestors, angels… etc Statistics show that about 60 % of those undergoing clinic death had NDE.
Now heres the deal. There is a drug that can bring you into NDE. The percentage of experiencing NDE by taking the drug is a lot less, but nevertheless, do You think that God would allow human beings to come in touch with divinity, see past the border?

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Your statistics are flawed at best. I was dead clinically briefly and currently attend a support group for people who have been through the same thing. Neither myself nor anyone in the support group "saw the light" during the experience.

Also, the drug you’re referring to (Ketamine, an animal tranquilizer) will enduce a near death state…. because the whole point is to almost overdose, in which case its not a drug induced thing that is like a NDE, it is an actual NDE, because YOU ALMOST KILLED YOURSELF. If you think this is a good idea and actually die (permanently) when you do it, then Darwin’s theories will be proven yet again. You will die some day, thats a fact. Why not just worry about living in the mean time?

Oh, and any visions or out of body experiences people who did the ketamine thing reported are most likely not from a near death experience, but rather from ingesting massive amounts of animal tranquilizers. According to the link I referenced below, "Ketamine is a short-acting, hallucinogenic, ‘dissociative’ anaesthetic." Keyword being "hallucinogenic", meaning (in laymans terms) "Makes you see things that didn’t really happen."

And God (ironically) died just after Nietzsche did, just to prove a point.

| Nov 05, 2009

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No such thing.
JO | Nov 05, 2009

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He would.
…. ?aav | Nov 05, 2009

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I have had a NDE. During an operation I flat lined. I did have what I consider a mystical and memorable experience. I don’t know that a drug can do that.
I would have doubts of using a drug to try to take a peek into the hereafter. I think that a Higher Power has a reason for our death and would not allow a glimpse of the after life at our discretion.
Stupendous315 | Nov 05, 2009

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no he wouldn’t!!!good thing he doesn’t exist,eh…
Bex | Nov 05, 2009

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Of course many people have written books on this topic . I know very well those are people who are not in the habit of telling lies .
Sundar | Nov 05, 2009

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This morning, I saw peregrine falcon fly in through the closed window, land on my radiator, and then fly off.
Excruicia | Nov 05, 2009

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Three are only three possible scenarios.

1) Yes, god would allow it.
In fact, if such a drug does exist then it already serves as evidence that god allows it and therefore this is a moot question.

2) No, god would not allow it.
If god did not allow it then no such drug could or should exist, ever, making this a moot question. If one does exist then this answer is a moot option.

3) There is no god. NDE is a chemical effect.
Maybe there is no god at all; perhaps NDE is a chemical effect occurring at or near death and one not related to divinity in any way, shape, or form. In fact, taking a man-made chemical pill to reproduce the NDE experience without actually being near death seems far more likely to indicate that the reaction is a purely chemical one rather than a case of an omnipotent being being tricked by a pill into thinking you may be dying.

So, if such a drug does exist, then either god does clearly allow for it or else the experience is not tied to god in any way. And, since it seems to make very little sense for god to let people glimpse heaven (some people) even though he knows they are not going to die (omnipotent and all that – seems you shouldn’t get there until you are actually dead), then I lean toward option 3. There is no god, there is no afterlife, there is no NDE that touches divinity.
Wesley B | Nov 05, 2009

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He apparently does.
I tend to believe the experiences are real. One argument in their favor is the many reports of them around the world that are very similar in content. Another is that some of these "dead" people have reported that they witnessed things during the experience that ordinarily would not be possible. Their data has been verified. Like traveling back home from the hospital and hearing conversations they repeat verbatim later when the revive.
There are scientists and other people who do not want to believe in anything spiritual and want to allow only physical reality (what I call thinking in a box, which really isn’t scientific) who work hard to disprove the possibility or validity of NDEs. They also constantly argue against the existence of a soul (to me, foolish, since we all experience our soul).

Would God allow these? Why not? He allows a lot of other things that are surprising and troublesome. And a lot harder to explain like sickness, cruelty, violence, murder, child molestation and abuse, etc.

In other words, I believe the experiences these people have are real experiences, not imagination or oxigen-deprived hallucinations.

On the other hand, their exact source is not known for sure. Would God allow them? Well, He certainly seems to. (Is there a possibility that they are demonic in origin? Yes. But they seem to bring a good influence in those who revive and live their lives with good motivation. This demonic visions would not cause.)

When you say, "see past the border?" realize that a lot of NDE experiencers claim that they went OVER the border and stayed for a while, that is they actually died, left their bodies for a time.
Bill | Nov 05, 2009

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I think NDE is a result of hallucinations. When you die, your heart stops, so the brain stops getting blood for a while
3pac | Nov 05, 2009

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If something is physically possible it is within the Laws of Nature, and I would argue that the Laws or Nature are the only Laws which can be truly called Laws of God, a truly Divine law can’t be broken by anyone since Deity wouldn’t allow it.
Kuve | Nov 05, 2009

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Yes, if you ask sincerely it can happen.

Love and blessings Don
Don H | Nov 05, 2009

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There is nothing that goes on here that God "would not allow". If you can do it, then God allows you to do it. If you can think it, then God allows you to think it. We don’t have to worry about doing God’s will. Just try not to.
All hat | Nov 05, 2009

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…man created god…
…man created the drug…
…man created religion…
…thus all is just a big business everyone who believes keep putting more money into – god, drugs and religion…
Deja Vu! | Nov 05, 2009

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Seek and ye shall find
knock and the door will be opened
you have not because you ask not.
Elisheba | Nov 06, 2009

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